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Επιστολή των Παμμακεδονικών Ενώσεων στον Πρόεδρο των ΗΠΑ, Ντόναλτ Τραμπ για το Σκοπιανό

Letter to president of USA – Donald J. Trump
WORLD PAN-MACEDONIAN ASSOCIATIONS
Coordinator: Nina Gatzoulis
ninagatz@comcast.net
Tel: 001-603-742-0466
July 7, 2018
To: Donald J. Trump, President of the United States of America
Dear Mr. President,  
With this letter, we wish to make clear the reasons that Greeks cannot accept the word “Macedonia” (or any name that includes “Macedonia” in it) as the permanent name of its northern neighbor, the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM). This name (FYROM) was agreed upon to be used only temporarily. The term “Macedonia” has to be removed before the country’s entry to any international organization.
Like any other nation, Greeks feel only a sense of pride when other countries use historical or other Greek names and words, as they introduce new scientific terms, or name companies, places, or cities. However, FYROM demands to be given the same name as its neighboring region which belongs to Greece. The underlying reasons for this demand, and why Greeks are fiercely opposed to it are explained below.
On January 11, 1934, the Comintern (Communist International) recognized the existence of a non-existing “Macedonian nation”, which included all the—multiethnic—inhabitants of the territory that was once ancient Macedonia, the largest part of which was/is in Greece, and smaller parts in Bulgaria and south Yugoslavia. The purpose was to bring to the newly founded “Macedonian nation” a sense of homogeneity and pride, and unite its inhabitants in a strife to “reclaim” the northern administrative region of Greece which is called Macedonia, and thus get access to the sea. Subsequently (in 1944), the leader—and later president—of Communist Yugoslavia, Josip Broz (commonly known as Tito) renamed Vardarska Banovina (Province of the river Vardar), a region of south Yugoslavia, to “Socialist Republic of Macedonia”. In addition, he codified the language spoken in parts of south Yugoslavia, a Slavic dialect similar to Bulgarian dialects, and called it “Macedonian language”. It is important to note that the US administration immediately reacted at that time, with Secretary of State Edward Stettinius stating that any talk about “Macedonian nation”, “Macedonian Fatherland”, or “Macedonian national consciousness” is an “unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic or political reality” and it can only be seen as “a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece” (http://www.mfa.gr/images/docs/fyrom/dilosi_stettinius_dec_1944.pdf). Indeed, at that time, a narrative began developing, according to which the Slavic “Macedonians” are direct descendants of Alexander the Great and the Ancient Macedonians, and that the Greeks occupy a large part of their land (the large part of Northern Greece which was Macedonia since the ancient times and is still called Macedonia today).  This ideology has gained strong momentum since 1991 (when the region of South Yugoslavia known today as FYROM broke away from Yugoslavia).

There have been many attempts to find a solution under the aegis of the UN over the years. Greeks throughout the world do not harbor any enmity or hostility toward the citizens of FYROM, and yearn for a peaceful and productive coexistence between the two peoples. It is important to note in this regard that Greece has decidedly contributed to building FYROM’s economy and infrastructure. Greece has an earnest desire for mutual respect and the realization of a lasting political solution with its northern neighbor.

Right now, however, a tragedy is going on in Greece and an uncertain future rises not only for Greece but also for the entire Balkan region. The governments of many European states, especially Germany, have persuaded the current weak Greek government that the “Prespes Accord” (signed by Athens and Skopje on June 17, 2018 at Psarades in the Prespes lake region of Greece’s northern province, Macedonia) is good for Greece. In addition to the country’s name “North Macedonia”, the accord recognizes – or rather gifts – the multiethnic population of the FYROM with a “Macedonian nationality” and “Macedonian language”, albeit with a referral descriptor that is supposed to clarify that the FYROM citizens are not related to ancient Macedonians, and that the “Macedonian” language belongs to the Slavic family languages. These are plain absurdities, as though when an inhabitant of Skopje answers to a Spaniard for instance that the language he speaks is “Macedonian” he will add: “but it belongs to the Slavic family of languages.”

During the signing of this accord —which, in accordance with the Constitution of the Hellenic Republic, the Greek government has no mandate from the Greek people to sign—, tens of thousands of Greek citizens in the nearby village of Pisoderi were rallying against it. The Greek Police, obviously following orders by the government, chased the peaceful demonstrators using tear gas and stun grenades and even beating up as well as throwing individuals down a steep ravine (many of these protesters had to be hospitalized).

This accord has not yet been completely finalized as it has to pass through a referendum in the FYROM as well as through the Greek and FYROM Parliaments. While the Greek government is ready to commit this act, the Greek people vehemently and unequivocally oppose it. Consequently, the Greek people are exercising their right to defend their Constitution and are rallying loudly, yet peacefully up to now, protesting in most cities across Greece, demanding a referendum as well.

The SWAT teams deployed by the government, tear gas and attack all demonstrators (including the elderly, women and children) on a daily basis. However, and to the government’s dismay, these rallies are multiplying by the day, but unfortunately all major Greek media, including the state-owned and run ERT channel, do not cover them. Moreover, when a news item is reported, the demonstrators are presented as “far-right nationalists and extremists” and “neo-Nazis” – descriptions that could not be further from the truth. Therefore, the international community does not know what is REALLY going on in Greece in this summer of discontent.

It is well known that Greeks have gone through an economic crisis enduring its consequences stoically, but they will defend to the end the name of Macedonia which is being usurped by a non-Greek state. It is not the purpose of this letter to explain that the history of Ancient Macedonia is a very important part of Greek history; we have done that previously (please see http://macedonia-evidence.org/). We fear that because of the way the Greek government responds, the peaceful rallies will turn violent, bringing instability to Greece and the entire region.

It is difficult not to notice the closer ties that FYROM has been developing with Turkey, who provokes Greece on a daily basis by invading Greek waters and airspace, and disputes Greece’s sea borders; apparently, the old saying “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” has been applied in this case, but such developments cannot contribute to offering Greece “peace of mind”. It is also interesting to note that Soros’ Open Societies Foundation https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/ vehemently supports the Prespes accord.

Dr. Frank L. Holt, Assistant Professor of History at the University of Houston, concludes in his prologue of the book “Macedonia Evidence”:


The future surely fascinates us, but it has no force. It merely waits while the past drives the present. On the train-tracks of time, the engine has always been in the back, pushing rather than pulling. Thus, the past cannot be unhooked and unheeded as so much dead weight. Nor can it be left in the hands of the wrong engineers: Whoever controls the past determines the future, and that ultimately depends upon who in the present is shaping the past. Parliaments? Pundits? Preachers? Poets? Presidents? Who controls the present must choose carefully whom to trust with our past, else a false and monstrous future may result.

Mr. President, Please take heed of these lines and do something to stop the upheaval that surely is coming in the area. Let the truth prevail, side with the Greek people.

Sincerely,

WORLD PAN-MACEDONIAN ASSOCIATIONS*

Pan-Macedonian Association USA

President: Demitris Filippidis

Pan-Macedonian Federation of Australia

Coordinator: Peter Jasonides

Pan-Macedonian Association of Canada

President: Dr. Christos Karatzios

Pan-Macedonian Association of New South Wells, Australia

President: Nikolaos Fassoulas

Pan-Macedonian Association of South Australia

President: Evangelos Tsiaparis

Pan-Macedonian Association of Western Australia

President: Paul Afkos OAM

Pan-Macedonian Association Queensland, Australia

Presidient: Dimitrios Papagiannis

Pan-Macedonian Association of Africa

President: Amyntas Papathanasiou

Pan-Macedonian Federation of Canada

President: George Papadakis

Pan-Hellenic Federation of Cultural Associations of the Macedonians (Greece)

President: George Tatsios

Co-signed by the Pan-Macedonian Federation of Greece

President: Dr. John Athanasiadis

* The World Pan-Macedonian Associations is the international representative umbrella of the individual PanMacedonian federations of the United States of America, Canada, Australia, Africa and Greece.

Greek SWAT Teams throwing tear gas bombs on peaceful demonstrators, including women, children and the elderly in Pisoderi

https://youtu.be/DkIdAtf-vnA

https://youtu.be/jeTu1D2JcV0

https://youtu.be/Jqqq5ETyn0g

https://www.facebook.com/livemediagr/videos/1789538711124890/

https://youtu.be/Jqqq5ETyn0g violence by the Greek SWAT Teams in Thessaloniki

https://youtu.be/Jqqq5ETyn0g  Peaceful Rally in the city of Florina

https://youtu.be/Jqqq5ETyn0g  Peaceful Rally in the city of Thessaloniki

https://www.facebook.com/livemediagr/videos/1789538711124890/ Peaceful Rally in the city of Kavala

                     

       SOURCE. INTERNATIONAL HELLENIC ASSOCIATION – IHA (USA)

11 σχόλια:

  1. Μπράβο σε όλες τις Παμμακεδονικές.

    Στηρίξτε μας. Δώστε μας οδηγίες, βρείτε ευφάνταστους τρόπους, να πιέσουμε ασφυκτικά αυτούςς τους ανθέλληνες προδότες, να τους χτυπήσουμε νομικά με κάθε δυνατό μέσο, ΣΥΝΕΧΩΣ, ΣΥΝΤΟΝΙΣΜΕΝΑ ΟΜΩΣ και ΚΥΡΙΩΣ ΓΡΗΓΟΡΑ - ΓΡΗΓΟΡΑ - ΓΡΗΓΟΡΑ.

    Με εκτίμηση

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  2. Υ.Γ.

    Μία ακόμη πρόταση. Τυπώστε σε ατομικά πλακάτ τις ΦΩΤΟΓΡΑΦΙΕΣ όλων των προδοτών Βουλευτών - Υπουργών που ψήφισαν θετικά για την συμφωνία των Πρεσπών. Έτσι σε όλα τα μεγάλα ΣΥΛΛΑΛΗΤΗΡΙΑ να περιφέρονται οι 100άδες χιλιάδες των διαδηλωτών με τις φωτογραφίες αυτών των ΑΝΘΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ. Σκεφτείτε το ότι οι φωτογραφίες τους θα κάνουν τον ΓΥΡΟ ΤΗΣ ΟΙΚΟΥΜΕΝΗΣ.

    ΝΑ ΤΟΥΣ ΣΥΝΤΑΡΑΞΟΥΜΕ - ΝΑ ΤΟΥΣ ΦΤΥΣΟΥΜΕ - ΝΑ ΤΟΥΣ ΞΕΦΤΥΛΙΣΟΥΜΕ

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    1. Πανο
      Καταπληκτικη ιδεα..θα πετυχει τοσα πολλα...στην μνημη μας...στον παλμο...στα ΜΜΕ μεσα εξω....Αλλα δεν θα γινει...δυστυχως ..λογω φιλοτομαρισμου....Τι κριμα...Δεν υπαρχει φαντασια πια...μονο λογιστικα....Η ιδεα ειναι απιθανα καλη και δουλευει για εγερση ολων αριστα...

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    2. Αγαπητέ Δημήτρη σ'ευχαριστώ.
      Σκέφτεσαι (εαν δεν υπάρχουν απαγορευτικές διατάξεις.....) να δημοσιεύονταν οι φωτο τους και σε έντυπα - εφημερίδες του εξωτερικού ώστε να πληροφορηθεί ανάλογα για αυτές τους τις πράξεις και όλη η ομογένεια...;

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    3. Βλεπεις Πανο ??
      Απολυτη σιωπη για την ιδεα..Βλεπεις..?? Ειχα γραψει ενα σχολιο αληθειας ...σκοπιμα ...για να δω σντιδρασεις...για το δημοσιο του χθες....υπεθετα τις αντιδρασεις..αλλα ηθελα να δω την προοδο..αν ηλθε...Δεν ηλθε....Ακρα του ταφου σιωπη...Ξερεις γιατι ....Διοτι εδω ειναι πολλοι απ αυτους.Και ελαχιστα προοδευσαν....Αλλο τι λενε.Ο φιλοτομαρισμος σκιζει ακομη...Ετσι κι εξυπνη ιδεα σου....Βλεπεις ??? Κοιτα....Θελει κι αλλο ...πονο το δοχειο...δεν επαρκει ως εδω οσος υπαρχει...το τραβαει η ψυχη του...Και θαχει ....εως το απομακρο οριο του...

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    4. Καταπληκτική ιδέα, φωτογραφίες από όλους τους προδότες να διακοσμούν όλες τις αίθουσες των Παν Μακεδονικών Σωματίων & άλλων που ενδιαφέροντε για αρχή. Τα λόγια ξεχνούντε, οι φωτογραφίες μένουν στην μνήμη για πάντα. Λόγο επαγγέλματος (τυπογράφος) θα ετοιμάσω κάτι για τα Σωματεία στην Αυστραλία. Ποιές ΓΟΥΡΟΥΝΟΦΑΤΣΕΣ να βάλω; Τούς βασικούς, Καμμένο, Κοτζιά, Τσίπρα, Παυλόπουλο; η όλους 153.

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    5. Φίλε Ερμή,
      πρόταση: π.χ. 10 Μεγάλα πλακάτ που όλα επάνω στο μισό του ύψους θα χωρίζεται στα 4 με τις φωτο των ατόμων που ανέφερες. Από κάτω το άλλο μισό χωρισμένο ας πούμε σε 10 κουτάκια μικρότερα ώστε στο κάθε ένα από τα 10 πλακάτ να μπαίνουν από 10 - 22 φωτο των υπολοίπων ελεεινών υποκειμένων.

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    6. Φίλε Δημήτρη,
      ακριβώς όπως τα λες είναι.
      Είναι δυνατόν το σκυλί να δαγκάσει το χέρι αυτού που το ταίζει;
      Αλλά τι περιμένεις από τους ανθρώπους αυτούς οι οποίοι επι 10ετίας εκμεταλλεύονταν τον πόνο των συνανθρώπων τους και τους εκβιάζανε στυγνά (γρηγορόσημα, επεμβάσεις στα Νοσοκομεία, οικοδ. άδειες, ευχέλαια....) τελέιωμό δεν έχει!
      Βέβαια το καλό το κράτος φρόντιζε να τους ανταμοίβει για τις κοπιώδεις προσπάθειές τους δίνοντάς τους στο τέλος και ένα...καλό εφάπαξ 80.000-120.000 δρχ., από τις δικές τους κρατήσεις λένε οι αυτοί ΘΕΛΟΝΤΑΣ ΝΑ ΠΟΥΝΕ ΑΠΟ ΤΟΝ ΙΔΡΩΤΑ ΚΑΙ ΕΙΣΦΟΡΕΣ ΤΟΥ ΚΟΣΜΟΥ ΚΑΙ ΤΩΝ ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΩΝ ΕΠΑΓΓΕΛΜΑΤΙΩΝ, χρήματα που τα στερούνταν οι συνάνθρωποί μας ώστε να μη γίνονται δρόμοι, φώτα, υπηρεσίες κ.λ.π. τα γνωστά δηλαδή. Τέλος αυτοί νομίζω είναι ένοχοι στο ότι δεν δούλευαν και στο ότι εκμεταλλεύονταν τους συνανθρώπους τους.
      Μην ξεχνάς: "Ο άριστος κατανοεί ότι είναι δίκαιο, ο μικρός άνθρωπος κατανοεί ότι είναι επωφελές".
      Προσωπικά πιστεύω ότι όλες οι εικόνες περί πάταξης των αδικιών κ.λ.π. σκέτες μπαρούφες είναι, σε λίγο καιρό πάλι όπως και πριν από 10 χρόνια θα είναι. Για δες τον τ. Υπ. Τσοχατζόπουλο έξω λέει είναι λόγω υγείας, κατάλαβε το δούλεμα που τρώμε...
      Και για να μην ξεχνιόμαστε να έχουμε πάντα κατά νου: "Οι πολιτικοί είναι οι καλύτεροι σκηνοθέτες του κόσμου. Πολύ γρήγορα θα χάσουμε τη δουλειά μας εξαιτίας τους"… (Εμίλ Κουστουρίτσα)

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  3. "Makedonia" name dispute.
    by George Vakos

    Most people in the world wonder about the unresolved conflict between Greece and FYROM (former Yugoslavian republic of Macedonia) about the name dispute. FYROM insists on calling its state with its constitutional name "Makedonia".
    On the other hand, Greece insists not to recognize it, thus blocking FYROM's entry to EU and NATO.

    25 years ago, when Yugoslavia ceased to exist, the United Nations registered FYROM with this provisional name, endorsed by Greece, too.

    The name "Makedonia" was first introduced during the beginning of the Cold War by Marshal Tito of Yugoslavia, by renaming the then name "Vardarska" of Skopje territory, calling it "Makedonia" ever since, obviously intending to annex Northern Greece's territory.

    In 1944, the US Secretary of Government Roosevelt, Edward Riley Stettinius, (who served as United States Secretary of State under Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry S. Truman from 1944 to 1945, and as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations from 1945 to 1946, taking part also at the Yalta conference in Feb. 1945) in a confidential memorandum dated December 26, 1944, to US diplomatic missions in the Balkans, not hesitated to call the whole thing "unfounded demagogy"...

    STATE DEPARTMENT
    Foreign Relations Vol VII
    WashingtonD.C.
    Circular Airgram
    (868.014/26 Dec. 1944)
    The Secretary of State to Certain Diplomatic and Consular Officers*

    "The following is for your information and general guidance but not for any positive action at this time.
    The Department has noted with considerable apprehension increasing propaganda rumors and semi-official statements in favor of an autonomous Macedonia, emanating principal from Bulgaria, but also from Yugoslav Partisan and other sources, with the implication that Greek territory would be included in the projected state.
    This Government considers talk of Macedonian "nation", Macedonian "Fatherland" or Macedonian "national consciousness" to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic nor political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece."
    Sign
    Stettinius

    The world community wonders about Greece's strong objections, calling FYROM with its constitutional name "Macedonia". Here are the views of the international community and Greece's respond:

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  4. when you agreed to the term FYROM you made the biggest mistake right there .
    Because we all know that there is nothing more permanent than the temporary
    it should have been FYROV ( of Vardaska )
    a nice temporary ( permanent ) name just
    for now. Who accepted FYROM ??? You are a traitor sir ( sir my @ss) . This of course doesn't take away an inch from the treacherous acts of swine kotzia and dimwit tsipras.

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