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Re: INSIGHT - TURKEY - some notes so far

Email-ID1537069
Date2010-03-11 08:39:14
Fromemre.dogru@stratfor.com
Tobhalla@stratfor.com, bayless.parsley@stratfor.com
no worries, Bayless. Gulenist guys loved me and I'm sure they will be
happy to cover my wedding expenses. The only problem is that you won't be
able to drink alcohol.

Bayless Parsley wrote:

that means it's going to be expensive

Reva Bhalla wrote:

dude im going to plan their wedding


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bayless Parsley" 
To: "Reva Bhalla" 
Cc: "emre dogru" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:43:10 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
Central
Subject: Re: INSIGHT - TURKEY - some notes so far

oh and i'm sure she is just thrilled the emre pasha is road trippin'
it with some ethnic looking american girl

Reva Bhalla wrote:

haha, the Albanian chick is super cute, btw. Emre Pasha has good
taste


----- Original Message -----


From: "Bayless Parsley" 
To: "Reva Bhalla" , "emre dogru"

Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:39:19 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
Central
Subject: Re: INSIGHT - TURKEY - some notes so far

one question: can the power of stratfor get emre laid if he ever
ditches his albanian chick?

Reva Bhalla wrote:

a little anecdote i forgot to add. while we were waiting for our
meeting at the prime minister's building, there was a young guy in
the waiting room who was waiting for his boss who was meeting with
Erdogan's advisor. the guy used to work for an MP and is in the
parliament scene in Ankara. when he found out we were from
Stratfor, he got really excited and told us about how he and his
friend sent a letter to the parliament's head of information or
whatever as a petition for all Turkish MPs to get Stratfor
subscriptions. Obviously he's a big fan and this is something we
can pursue as an institution deal. (getting the appropriate
contact info for this). At the AKP think tank we visited in
Ankara today, they also told us clearly 'we know the power of
Stratfor'. Everyone here wants to influence us one way or another.
Turkey needs a voice in DC. THey're hoping it's us.

----- Original Message -----

From: "Reva Bhalla" 
To: "analysts" 

Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:24:34 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
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Subject: INSIGHT - TURKEY - some notes so far


Going to sum up a few meetings so far. i will go into more detail
later when it's not 230am and not exhausted from traveling 12 hrs
traveling between istanbul and ankara. Emre will fill in any
other details I've missed. We will be meeting next with two
Turkish energy experts (send questions if you have them -- we need
good turkey energy sources), CEO of Sabanci group (one of the
Istanbul giants), TUSKON business association (Gulenist) and then
on the opposite side of the political spectrum, the head of Dogan
media, then Isbank (also a bastion for the nationalists and
Istanbul giants)

For the first part of my trip, Emre and I have been hanging out
with hardcore Gulenists. We started at Zaman headquarters (Zaman
is main Gulenist newspaper and media voice for AKP
, Today's Zaman
is the English-language daily). We met with the Editor in Chief of
Today's Zaman and the head of Cihan news agency (which runs their
major media outlets). Cihan is now the most powerful media outlet
in Turkey. It used to be Hurriyet, dominated by the nationalists,
but they're under attack (will get to that later).


They explicitly represented themselves as part of the 'jamaah', or
the 'movement', as they like to call it. The way they represent
their agenda is that this is about democratization in Turkey,
human rights, world peace, etc. The guy was actually quoting
Western liberal philosophers trying to show how much in common
they have with them in respect for these democratic values, and
this is what's essential for Turkey's candidacy in the EU. The
irony, they claim, is that people think because they're Islamist,
they're fundamentalist and not modern, whereas the authoritarians
(in their view) ie. the military, are the ones who are seen in the
West as modern. This is what frustrates them. So, by promoting
this peace, love and democracy campaign, they say they are
fighting for constitutional reform, business and political
pluralism, civilian control over military, judicial reform, etc.
That there is no secret agenda. (my note -- what Emre and I
noticed is that in all our meetings with Gulenists, they recited
almost the same lines verbatim. they're very well rehearsed in
selling this model. At the root of this, however, is power. The
established elite, ie. the military, Istanbul business giants,
etc. are being threatened by an Islamist political vehicle fueled
by the Anatolian small-to-med business class.
) Both of the
sources talked about how they need to raise an Anatolian business
class to undermine the Istanbul giants (they essentially
articulated our own theory, which was cool.).


We discussed the Ergenekon case a lot, which gave them plenty of
opportunity to bash the military for being so irresponsible and
disrespectful to the civilian government. What struck us most is
how they claim they have allies within the military, people high
up in rank, who are disaffected with the establishment and are
WILLING to provide leaks to the Gulenist newspapers and
intelligence services that support these coup allegations. We
heard the exact same story the next day at a Gulenist organization
that we visited. More likely this is an allusion to their
successful penetration of the military (have sent more detailed
insight on this previously)


We also discussed the Gulen schools that are spreading across the
globe, expanding Turkish influence.
Of course these are the
schools with teh best resources, facilities. Students will learn
how to speak Turkish, the national anthem, how to be the 'right
kind of Muslim', etc. In essence, it buys them loyalty. We are
still working on getting a complete database of Gulenist schools.
They claim that have more than 2,000 in 200 countries so far.
Today's Zaman editor in chief also talked about his experience at
Turkish Daily News, which is now owned by Dogan group (which owns
Hurriyet and is under attack now by AKP/Gulen). He said at TDN the
tax evasion was so obvious and went into detail about how they did
it and how his salary was parceled out to allow them to write off
most of it. this story was used by him to claim that they at
Zaman didn't start this media war with Hurriyet, it was Hurriyet
that started it because they were involved in all this bad
business, etc.


The next day, Emre and I visited a major Gulenist organization
that puts together these massive conferences all over the world to
promote their agenda, raise funds, recruits, etc. Their office is
in a very expensive part of Istanbul. They've got the best
facilities, this beautiful theater system. In short, they've got
money. Now you have to ask yourself, where is the money coming
from?
the head of the organization that met with us and
propagandized us kept talking about all these peace love and
harmony efforts to spread the Gulen ideas and democratize Turkey,
spread Turkey's influence, etc. But their funding comes mainly
from co-opting the Anatolian business class. Again we heard about
how they have allies within the military 'brave' enough to issue
leaks on their coup plots.

After getting a very long tour of the entire building, top to
bottom, they sat us down for a Gulen propaganda film in their
theater. Emre sitting in the middle of the Gulen guy and I. The
Gulen guy is so overcome by the speech shown in the video by
Fethullah Gulen, that he starts crying. Meanwhile im trying really
hard not to laugh. It was an interesting experience.
That evening I had dinner with the editor in chief of Hurriyet,
way on the other side of the political spectrum. He gave his
version of the tax evasion case, said that Zaman and Gulen started
the whole thing and that Bulent Kenes (Zaman editor who we met
with) was part of the problem, he profiteered from that system. In
short, it's very, very tense. The night I met him, he had just
found out that Zaman was suing them for running an article by
Soner Cagaptay, who Gulenists are trying extremely hard to defame
(it's very obvious). This source confirmed what I have heard
earlier about Gulen penetration of military and how they win the
support of the Anatolian business class by giving them a lucrative
place in the supply chain. He gave an example of the Gulen school
influence -- he met with the Algerian ambassador - trained in a
Gulen school, spoke fluent Turkish, extremely friendly to the
Turkish government. A very well-oiled system.


Today, Emre and I took a road trip to Ankara. We first visited the
USAK think tank, which was opened by Abdullah Gul (the president)
in 2009. THey also have a gorgeous office building. The head of
the think tank started out by telling us what Turkish 'soft power'
looks like. He said that during the Cold War times, Turkey looked
at the Arab world in disgust, like they were inferiors. Now Turkey
is paying attention to its neighborhood, wants to stabilize,e tc
(the Davutoglu line). What was most interesting is when he talked
about how Turkey already has plenty to work from in the MIddle
East. He said, Syrians, Egyptians, Iraqis, even Iranians --
they're ALL TURKS.
He says they look like Turks, they have TUrkish
relatives from Ottoman history, they want to be like Turks, they
love Turkish lifestyle, etc etc. He said that there is 'no such
thing as an Arab' or Arab nationalism under Nasser. They're all
Turks and Egypt is not a power to be taken seriously. (if any
Arab were in that room, their head would have probably
exploded). they're nothing. Israel is also nothing compared to
Turkish economic, regional, political, population power. He went
on to explain how Turkey can solve everyone's problems, by opening
borders, removing visa restrictions and improving trade with
Egypt, Syria, Iran, etc. A key part of this strategy is also to
benefit the AKP's strategy of raising its own business class ---
the Turkish merchants who benefit from increased trade in the
Mideast are the Antaolian businessmen, and AKP is making sure of
that.


This AKP think tank is in all the big Turkish delegations. He said
that in their last trip to Syria, Bashar tells them he wants to
open the border and wants to democratize (on the latter, yeah
freakin right). He also claims that after their meetings, the
members of the Syrian business council were practically begging
them to stay because they said once the Turks in that delegation
left, everything would go back to the same. Overall, we got the
impression from several of these meetings that Turkey is extremely
focused on the Syria track and increasingly more so on the
Egyptian track. They expect and claim these countries welcome the
Turks with open arms. They also couldn't stop talkinga bout how
Turkish television programs over satellite are spreading os much
influence throughout the mideast and shows them how to be modern
Turks. Saudi Arabia apparently has banned or is trying to ban
these shows. I myself have seen how Turkish soap operas are
extremely popular in the mideast.


He confirmed our analysis that Russia has no intention of seeing
through a Turkey-Armenia deal - it wouldn't make any sense. He
says the AKP leadership was so naive to think that the talks would
go anywhere. Now it's time to turn back to Azerbaijan and Georgia
and fix things with them. AFter all, he says, Azerbaijan doesn't
want to become another dependent of Russia's.
One other interesting thing he said about the Russian factor in
those Armenia talks was that Turkey really expected the US to get
more involved. He said Russia of course was an obstacle, we knew
that. But, the US could have made concessions to Russia to allow
this Armenia deal through. In other words, they expected the US to
be part of a grand bargain in which the US would recognize that
Turkey-Armenia relationship would bring all kinds of benefits, ie.
strengthen an ally in the Caucasus, take care of the genocide
issue, etc. Turkey also expected US to pay a price to Russia for
this project. Here is where there appears to be a
misunderstanding, especially since this Armenia-Turkey deal is
likely very low on US priorities when it comes to how to bargain
with Russia.


We then met Erdogan's chief advisor at the prime minister's
building. This guy is also a Gulenist, but not openly so. The
Hurriyet people say he is and Emre and i noticed the way he was
talking on the phone and using certain phrases marked him as one.
We got a lot of the Davutoglu diplomatic line from him (he's a
very smooth and articulate guy, as Kamran knows). He said that
there needs to be more time in the Iran negotiations and that
things only got really serious in the past 6-7 months. US can't
expect all this to happen overnight. He claims taht prior to the
Iranian Revolution anniversary in February, that Iran actually
agreed to the Turkey fuel swap deal. When they took the deal to
the US, he says the US was totally unprepared then came back and
said they can't do it. Turkey was pissed. They feel that this, in
addition to the Armenia issue and everything else, just goes to
show how the Obama administration doesn't have strong political
leadership (Bush at least fought the armenia resolution) and that
the US doesn't understand or appreciate Turkey's role in the
region. They feel betrayed, to use his words. He says it's
hypocritical for US to get mad if Turkey talks to Russia when
everyone applauds US and Russia negotiating. He says the reason
Turkey is so active in the east is because they're actually
receptive to them there (hint, hint - go tell your government to
wake up and appreciate us). He, like the guy at the AKP Usak
think tank, talked about how Turkey needs the US as a partner in
this region. US just needs to recognize it.

--
Emre Dogru

STRATFOR
+1.512.279.9468
emre.dogru@stratfor.com
www.stratfor.com




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